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Girl Power: Eunice by DivineROAR Girl Power: Eunice by DivineROAR
I went back and colored Eunice to celebrate her return on Simian Says. As you notcie I put her in her Primus outfit. It made it easier to color.

I had a bit of fun having Eunice with a couple of Primus creatures instead of Earth animals. I don't know what is the real size of both these creatures. I figured the butterfly might be much larger than a normal butterfly. The strange opossum is about the size of a small cat.

Both those animals were in the opening shot of Simian Says.

In defense of Eunice here is the last Q&A I had with Dwayne Mc Duffie before he died.

1. I asked the whole Supergirl and princess thing partly because the term
"Mary Sue" has been used by some describe Eunice. Is that a fair
description?

1. Except she's not remotely a princess, and while she has powers, they
aren't remotely Supergirl level. Supergirl doesn't need Ben Tennyson's help
to take out Sunder. Sunder would run from Supergirl.

A "Mary Sue," to my understanding, is a character inserted into an existing
franchise via fan fiction who is too good to be true, and who shines at the
expense of the established cast. Eunice is a guest character in the actual
Ben 10 franchise. Moreover, she is a flawed character who requires the help
of the protagonist and his team to survive an attack, discover her origins,
and gain a purpose. No, it's not remotely a fair description, as it's prima
facie inaccurate. Used outside the realm of fan fiction, Mary Sue seems to
be so broad a category that it encompasses any guest star in any continuing
series, as well as every *protagonist.*

Consider that in Sherlock Holmes, if it were fan fiction, Irene Adler,
Mycroft, Watson, and Sherlock himself would all fit under various
definitions of Mary Sue. I recently ran across a serious forum discussion of
whether *Batman* is a Mary Sue in Batman stories. How is this a useful
concept? Does Mary Sue mean "either the protagonist of a series, or anyone
the protagonist meets who is remotely interesting"?

Near as I can figure, to some fans, "Mary Sue" is shorthand for "I don't
like her." They should just say so, rather than misuse their new vocabulary
from "TV Tropes."

I have asked Eugene Son the same question and will add his response later.

Eunice is the property of Cartoon Network. Ben 10 is created by Man of Action
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Gogogadgethat Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014
What's really upsetting is that according to Derrick J. Wyatt, both Eunice and Primus have been erased from existence as of "So Long and Thanks for all the Smoothies."
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Professional General Artist
I think only Primus no longer exists because Ben used the word Unitrix in Collect This. I didn't like the Primus idea but Eunice was always cute.
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ossiriand10 Featured By Owner May 12, 2012
I also think using Primus animals was a good choice since Eunice is from there and I think it shows her connection to it. :D At "ToE" ep I felt she was hitting the Mary Sue meter and I was afraid the epi would tank. I even cringed at the whole amnesia distress + unknown ability angle but as story rolled on, I thought it was interesting that she was first generation. I'm still hoping for Ben and Julie. :D I just saw "The Perfect Girlfriend" and I don't recall the epi where Gwen said that Julie acquired Shipp's abilities. Do you what ep was that?
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner May 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
That line Gwen said confused fans.
There isn't one. I think they meant to imply that merging with Ship in the battle suit might have caused her to act strange.
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ossiriand10 Featured By Owner May 15, 2012
Oh, I hope the writers will explore that. It does have some possibilities. :D
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TeenTitans4Evr Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Fantastic work! You inspired me to make a figure of Eunice: [link]
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Professional General Artist
She's cool
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piper12345a Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome :love: Beautiful drawing!
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks
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ETNRL4L Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011
I love this picture. You did a great job withe her. I'm conflicted about Eunice because I absolutely support Benlie and think that's the direction the show should ultimately take. That having been said, she's really cool and pretty and kind (and did I mention my namesake?) There has never been a really cool character named Eunice on tv! It's so uncommon some fan fiction writers have made her into a dude...a dude! I want to like her!
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
I like Eunice too. We have much in common.
I don't think she's a Mary Sue at all.
I do prefer Benlie although they keep having
problems. I'm sure they'll stay together.
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ETNRL4L Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2011
Than you!
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snakeknight Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011
Well, you did a good job on the picture, but if I may I'd like to weigh in on the whole "Mary Sue" argument.

I believe the reason so many people online called Eunice a Mary Sue not so much for her character, but because her debut episode "The Transmogrification of Eunice" played out just like one of those countless BenxOC stories on Fanfiction.net: She mysteriously falls from the sky and meets up with the team, Ben instantly falls head over heels for her having randomly broken up with his canon girlfriend, she's completely innocent and pure and is victimized by the villain of the week yet she has cool super powers and is able to get Sunder into a Full Nelson. It also doesn't help that it feels like she only exists as yet another attempt to appease haters of the sequel series by replacing Ben's "boring" girlfriend Julie with some hot girl with superpowers. I mean, first they have Ben turn into an immature jerk like he was in the original series in "Vengeance of Vilgax, then they turn Kevin into a psychotic monster during the previous arc.

Seriously, the fact that I've had to deal with people have legitimately complained that Julie was a Mary Sue and then see so many people instantly fall for Eunice is a hypocrisy that cannot be put into words. To paraphrase former McDuffie Forum contributor Kakapotrainer, "...the fact that this bad fan character is considered a better match because she has 'kewl' fighting skills says a lot about both the writers' and the fans' maturity". Sorry to vent, but I just had to get that off my chest and maybe solicit the opinion of somebody who likes the character.
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Professional General Artist
I know how you feel. I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan and there are
people who call Xion a Mary Sue even though she is based off
of Kairi like Namine is. People forget that Nobodies are meant
to fit that sort of fan fiction like character but they are some
thing else.

It's like only fan fiction writers are allowed to ship Ben. That's
not true. Ben is a teenage boy. Of course he is going to find
Eunice pretty! And they do seem to still flirt. I think there are
are group of purist from the first generation of the show who
can't accept changes. I never liked Kai. I think Julie is better.
But I don't hate Eunice. She's cool.

The only character in canon I thought to be a Mary Sue is
Westley Crusher. The super genius kid made the adults look
too stupid.
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zakflame Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
cool you edit eunice outfit the 1 she weres in simin says
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yes. I like the Galvin outfit better than Gwen's extra clothes.
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zakflame Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so do i
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snakeknight Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011
Look, I'm sorry I went into full fanboy mode and blew up in your direction. Like I said in Kapaychan's review of the episode, Julie is one of the few things from the series left that I like so it irked me to see the writers try to put her on a bus just so Ben can drool over some shallow mystery girl.

The flirting also bugs me since it seems like the only reason for giving Ben relationship issues in "Ultimate Alien" is to generate a new source of sexual tension by having him turn into a casanova, which is also a waste of this celebrity sub-plot. I thought Ben and Julie were an interesting couple, so seeing the writers try to cast her aside so they can have Ben shamelessly flirt with whatever girl comes by is just another area where this series has disappointed me.
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Kelticmoon24 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
T-T GOD I MISS HIM! He pretty much said exactly what I've been saying about people calling characters like Eunice "Mary Sues".
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
The proper term is Canon Sue and Westley Crusher is more of one than Eunice ever could be.
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AncientWonder Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
weren't those rat thing actually in the simain say ep
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yep. It was right in the opening shot.
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AncientWonder Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
ahha that is cool i thought you made the little guys up :D
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InnocentGraces Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011
She kicks ass in Simian Says!
-Eunice and Gwen FTW!
(Namine)----(Kairi)
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Lol. I think the same thing about Gwen and Eunice.
And Namine isn't a Mary Sue. Neither is Xion.
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InnocentGraces Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011
Non of the KH girls are Mary Sues!
People are just jealous of them!
So they call them that!
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4eknight11 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aww, Eunice! Whata sweet situation! I love this :love:
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you
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GoldenGirl954 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011
Very pretty :heart:
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you
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SilverZeo Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Hobbyist
(Ben and Eunice walk in, hanging on each other, and they bump into Julie)
Julie: Ben? .... whose she?
Ben: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
I think that is what upsets so many fans.
It's like the fan fiction writers are the only ones allowed to ship a character even though in canon it's not called shipping.
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PersianAlchemist Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
omg is that a dik-dik?
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
I don't know what it's called.
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PersianAlchemist Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
if it's very small, about 8inchs tall. it's a dik-dik. there were a lot of them in Madagascar 2.
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Professional General Artist
The creature is from Primus. It does look like a oppossum or a marsupial.
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PersianAlchemist Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
ah i see!
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Ravenixe Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011
Nice work :)
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks again.
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Ravenixe Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011
You're welcome ;)
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InnocentGraces Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
Glad that you remember her.
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AncientWonder Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
aww that is kind of cute to see her taking car of animal on primus
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Professional General Artist
I figured Azmuth would keep his promise.
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AncientWonder Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
ya i think he would too it would not be pretty if he didnt and ben found out ^^; and azmath would know that
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XJose-chanX Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011
:heart:!!!
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you
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XJose-chanX Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
you're very welcome!!
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LadyWillsay Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you drew her amazingly.
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DivineROAR Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks
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LadyWillsay Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
your welcome
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